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[L1, G3] Using hiragana for foreign words

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User Sutoh asked the following question about the Lesson 1, Grammar Note 3 lecture:

Sensei,
These pod casts are very helpful and easy to understand. Thanks so much.
I had a question on the Japanese translation of Georgia in this cast. Is it common to use the hirgana for an American word like that (in Japan)? Also, it looked like a katakana vowel sound extension was used too, is it common to intermix the two kana in one word (in Japan)?

My answer:

Good questions! Thank you!

I used hiragana here because the Lessons/podcasts are designed with the assumption that students know hiragana by the time they start Lesson 1, and katakana by the time they start Lesson 2. I therefore don’t want to use katakana in the Lesson 1 podcasts, but I did want to teach "Georgia"/"University of Georgia" quickly, as I use it frequently in my teaching.

Writing words in hiragana that would normally be written in katakana is done in Japan, most commonly in books for small children. Like most non-native learners, Japanese children learn the hiragana first, and the katakana after that, so you will often see books for kindergarten or younger children written entirely in hiragana, or with hiragana written next to katakana words to show the reading.

Even when that is done, however, extended vowels are still normally shown with the katakana extender, probably on the assumption that it’s an “instant learn” character—once you’ve seen it once, you aren’t likely to forget it. =)

Check out this image from one of my young son’s books:

The katakana extender can also be used to show that a syllable is being extended in its pronunciation, as opposed to as part of its “spelling”. In this image, the elephant is crying because he wants to go down the slide first, and the final vowel sound is being extended. “I want to go fiiiiiirst!”

Hiragana is also sometimes used for foreign words to make the word look more cute or feminine. For example, とらばーゆ is a popular magazine for women seeking work. The name comes from the French word "travailler" (I think—someone correct me if I'm wrong!)

Thank you for your questions! I am planning to make a podcast that touches on issues like this, so I will try to incorporate these questions into that.

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I was having a similar problem in that the pod cast would only play sound if I tried viewing it on the web page.  This happened after I had updated the quicktime/itunes stuff for my computer.  I was able to click on the "download" link and view it that way.  After I had updated the quciktime/itunes software again (about a month later) and the web browser software (Mozilla Firefox) just prior to that, the imbeded viewing started to work again.

Shutoh

Yosh!

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Viewing podcasts

 Hi, Pingu! Thank you for your kind comments.

The only time I've ever not been able to see the graphics is when I had problems with my Flash installation. Trying a different browser, or upgrading my Flash installation always fixed the problem.

How are you watching the podcast? If a different browser / upgrading Flash doesn't help, then one solution might be to watch it using iTunes.

Let me know if none of those help, and I'll try to figure out what the problem is... Thanks!

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Lesson 1 GN 3

Hello Sensei

Thank you for the time you've spent making these very useful podcast. I find them more structured and helpful than those posted by Japaneseipod101.

In your podcast I wasn't able to see the slides you created to accompany the audio.  Do you know why?

Thank you and I look forward to more of your podcasts.

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